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READING DREDGE TAILS:
By
 David "Zooka" Bryce  

Published in the Mar/Apr 2000 issue of GPAA Magazine

 

One of the questions I hear most from prospectors is  “What about those tails from the bucket line dredge over on XXX Creek? How do I test and mine them?”  I have been on working bucket line dredges, and tested their tails in several states, and mined behind one in Nevada. And the simple answer is, “It depends…” 

If you are interested in dredge tails, there are several things you need to know before you get too involved in testing or even mining behind a bucket dredge. The first thing to ask is: what kind of bucket dredge was it? How long was it from boom to the end of the conveyor? How long was the boom? The conveyor? Where was the spud located?  What recovery system did it use, sluices or jigs? Are there detailed records from the company that ran the dredge? Did they do test holes? Why did they quit mining?  

You may not be able to get hold of the records of the dredging operation, but you can more easily find out details of the dredge itself. And it helps to know how bucket line dredges work.  

 

HOW BUCKET LINE DREDGES WORK: 

Bucket line dredges have three main components, the BOOM, the HULL and the CONVEYOR or CONVEYORS (also called stackers or tail stackers). The BOOM is like a big chainsaw blade, with buckets instead of teeth. The BOOM can raise and lower. The buckets are dragged across the face of the ore body, or bedrock if they dug that deep, from back to front. They fill with ore and transfer it into the HULL, where the material is screened. The oversize material is sent to the CONVEYOR (or CONVEYORS,  if it is separated into multiple sizes), where it is moved out back and stacked. The undersize, screened material is processed through jigs or sluices, or some other recovery system. Some dredges then moved the processed material out in another CONVEYOR to be stacked, others just dumped it off of the back of the dredge into the pond the hull floated in.

Dredges did not have a propulsion system. They were moved by winches secured to anchor points on land, and by the buckets themselves. The winches moved the dredge both from side to side, to swing the boom, and forwards or backwards. To keep the dredge from being pushed backwards when digging, and to provide the pivot points for swinging the boom, there were one or more SPUDS, or long, stout metal shafts. These spuds were sunk into the bottom as anchors. With only one spud sunk, the dredge could pivot from side to side. That is why dredge tails are crescent-shaped, because the dredge would pivot in a fan-shaped pattern as it moved up or down the streambed. As the dredge pivoted on the spud, the CONVEYOR stacking the tails and the boom with the buckets would pivot as well. Also, some dredges’ conveyors could pivot independently of the dredge. One result of this pivoting action was that pie-shaped pieces of untouched ore would remain along the margins of the dredge’s cut. (See illustration.)

Here is a critical point: The tails you see now consist of material that came from a long way away. Some dredges were up to 300 feet long, from boom tip to end of conveyor, so the tails you see today might represent rocks that came from 300 feet away! 

 

READING THE TAILS: 

Have a look at the tails. Are they mostly larger rocks, 3 inches and bigger? Or 6 inches and bigger? If there is no undersize material, you can know that the undersize is down deep, under the larger rocks that were stacked on top of them. If there is some undersize, you know that the screening system in the dredge was not washing well, or that the undersize was de-watered and stacked with the oversize. 

Now look at those big rocks. Are there lots of really big rounded rocks? If so, the dredge was in a hot spot, where the heavy, big rocks settled. Is there a lot of rough, shattered rock, completely unrounded? The dredge was into bedrock there, and this is important. Dredge operators were often paid by how far they went, or how much material they processed. Digging the buckets into bedrock invited a breakdown, broken cables or buckets, or worse, so operators would only do it when they were in really hot ground! Or by mistake of course… so look for a large area of bedrock in the tails to help locate old hot spots. 

The crescent orientation of the tails will also tell you which direction the dredge was going. Often dredges would work an especially rich area more than once, going upstream, downstream, and side to side. If you find a spot where the dredge wasn’t just plowing upstream, there was probably a reason for it. They were chasing a hot spot! 

Another thing that frequently occurred with dredges was that they would park in one spot, and material would be brought to them from elsewhere by scrapers or trucks. This would result in particularly tall stacks, and the pond site where the dredge sat to do this is a good area to prospect, where all the undersize material was dumped out the back of the dredge. (If that dredge did not de-water and stack the undersize…) Sometimes, a dragline would bail the undersized tails material out of the pond as the dredge was fed. Dragline tails in such an operation look a lot like dredge tails, but their crescent shape is less pronounced. Also, their tails would consist of smaller screened materials. If you can find a stack of these smaller materials, test it! 

 

TESTING TAILS: 

So how do you test tails? Without heavy equipment, it is difficult. Look for the ponds where the dredge sat, that is a good place to start, and there will be few large rocks to deal with. In many cases these old ponds will be dry now, and easy to sink a test hole in. If you have access to a loader or a dozer, knock a hole through a tail stack. See if you can get to where the smaller materials are. There will be little small material where the oversize stacker dropped the oversize. 

Now that you have found a section of undersize, take a 2-bucket sample. Run it through a sluice or other recovery system. Pan it out. If you have about 7 good colors (smaller than a #2 pencil lead size, bigger than flour) in 2 buckets, you may be onto something. 30 to 50 yards of this material might produce an ounce of gold. Obviously, this is not rich enough for a suction dredge to make money, but a simple backhoe operation can run about 100 yards a day (if done right), and the bigger dozer or dragline ops can easily do 1000 yards a day. That would be 2-3 ounces for a little backhoe op, and 20-30 for the big operation. 

Now, take 6 more samples from 6 different places. Still getting the same amount? Or did you find where to dig and where to NOT dig? If the samples are not consistent, don’t plan on putting a lot of time into this spot until you have figured out why. 

Next, examine the gold you got under a powerful magnifying glass. Is it very thin flakes, easy to lose? Or really fine gold? Is it the kind of gold your system doesn’t recover well either? Take that into account! 

I have heard a number of prospectors say that the bucket dredge in their area left some or most of the gold. Maybe. If it had a jig system, probably not. The bottom line is there is only one way to find out, go dig a BUNCH of test holes. Then get together the money, time and equipment and mine the tails. Then you will TRULY know how much was left…. 

A final aspect of bucket dredges that is very important to us small miners and prospectors is that they could not work where the bedrock was shallow. Depending on the bucket dredge and the terrain and bedrock topography, they often had to stop when bedrock was within a few feet of the surface. So the margins of dredged ground might still be unmined, and possibly rich. Also, they can be mined by suction dredges or backhoes since they are relatively shallow. 

 

METAL DETECTORS: 

Every big operation it seems has the legend of the worker who watched the pie plate-sized nugget go out the oversize conveyor, only to be buried before the machinery could be shut down. Makes a body itch to run a detector over those tails, doesn’t it? But remember, detectors have been around for 50 years now. And a nugget that size can be found by the crudest of detectors! Sure, there might be nuggets in dredge tails, big ones too, but don’t waste time on the tails that are readily accessible. You won’t be the first to look there. Scan old maps for remote dredge sites, even sites now in protected areas. Then check to see if it is legal to take a detector there. 

 

CONCLUSION: 

So can you make money mining dredge tails? I have been to a bucket dredge hundreds of miles in the bush of NW Alaska. All materials, parts, and fuel must be flown in. This is EXPENSIVE! This company was working a crew of about 12 people, at Alaska wages no less, running an old bucket dredge in its own tails, i.e. re-running the tails, not even in new ground! And it was making money. But to make money mining dredge tails you will almost certainly need a large-scale operation, dozers and draglines – or a bucket dredge! The margins are the place for the small miner to look for missed pie-shaped pieces, and the shallower stuff. And always remember, the fact that someone once spent the huge amount of money required to get a bucket dredge moved in and set up proves that there was most likely SOMETHING there! 
   

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